Avengers: Cap's kooky Quartet

[TELLE]

Does anyone know the first usage of "Cap's Kooky Quartet", the name given to the incarnation of the Avengers beginning with issue #16, 1965 when Iron Man, Thor, etc left and Captain America lead a team comprised of Hawkeye, Quilksilver and the Scarlet Witch?

Who coined the phrase?  Was it Stan?  Fans?  A letters page writer?  Was it actually used in the comics?  What issue?

Curious...

[davidelliott]

Hmm... never heard of it, but weren't they called "Avengers Detroit"?

[TELLE]

The Avenger's have had many spin-offs but this was a nickname given to the main team after the heavyweight founders (Giant Man, Wasp, Iron Man, Thor) left the book and charcters without a book took over, marking a shift in the character of the team and the beginning of a trend towards frequent line-up changes and less-powerful members.  A move away from the JLA model.

I was hoping someone like Julian Perez or Kurt Busiek would have the answer to this.

 

[davidelliott]

I mentioned Avengers Detroit as wasn't that what the "New JLA" was called (you know the mistake of the Steel, Vibe, Vixen, Gypsy team) by fans?

Just a little humor

[TELLE]

Now I'm really embarassed because I've never heard that term before!
 

[DoctorZero]

I would have to check but I suspect the term was used during the time George Perez was the artist on the book originally, probably during a lineup change when they were reviewing Avenger's history.

[Kurt Busiek]

The Avenger's have had many spin-offs but this was a nickname given to the main team after the heavyweight founders (Giant Man, Wasp, Iron Man, Thor) left the book and charcters without a book took over, marking a shift in the character of the team and the beginning of a trend towards frequent line-up changes and less-powerful members.  A move away from the JLA model.

I was hoping someone like Julian Perez or Kurt Busiek would have the answer to this.

 

It's possible the name was not used until #150-151.  It definitely appears there.

If it was ever used back in the actual CKQ days, I think it must have only been in a lettercol...

kdb

[TELLE]

Thanks!

It looks like #150 was a partial reprint of #16 so I'm assuming that the term is used in a descriptive caption like, "And now a glance back at the origins of Cap's Kooky Quartet.." or something like that.  I can't imagine any of the characters actually using the phrase (maybe The Beast?).  I don't own the issue myself so I will have to dig these up --a pleasure since #151 has a great Kirby cover!