Superman Through the Ages!Holliston School Committee  
  •   forum   •   INTERLUDE: "MORTALITY!" •   fortress   •  
Superman Through the Ages! Forum
News: 2024 UPDATE!! Superman Through the Ages! forum is now securely located at https://WWW.SUPERMANTHROUGHTHEAGES.COM/FORUM - your username and password for forum.superman.nu will still work, although your browser won't know them under the new domain name. You can look them up in your browser's saved passwords.  This is the first time we have had an SSL cert, so your credentials and website activity are now secure!  Please bear with us as we update the site to the brand new, super-secure location of www.supermanthroughtheages.com! This may take some time. For more details, please see the forum update.
 
*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
October 14, 2024, 01:52:55 PM


Login with username, password and session length


Pages: [1] 2   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Grant Morrison on Batman  (Read 11142 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Super Monkey
Super
League of Supermen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3435



WWW
« on: August 25, 2006, 05:14:24 PM »

NRAMA: You said some interesting things at San Deigo this year, and I was hoping you could touch upon them again here - the gritty, grim Batman worked for a time, but now…there needs to be a change. What's at the root of the change? Is it the shift in the DCU, a change in the larger zeitgeist of the culture?

GM: Personally, I wanted to see a psychologically 'healthier' Batman - the last couple of decades have seen the character in the comics deconstructed almost to the point of no return and the Bat-books were heavily-laden with an extended family of characters, many of whom existed only to stand in for some part of Batman's personality that had been lost or suppressed over the last twenty years. It seemed like the right moment to step in and start gluing him back together again.


Read the full interview here: http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Batman/Morrison/Morrison_Batman.html
Logged

"I loved Super-Monkey; always wanted to do something with him but it never happened."
- Elliot S! Maggin
JulianPerez
Council of Wisdom
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1168



« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2006, 06:21:30 PM »

Quote from: "Grant Morrison"
I'm trying to put all kinds of things back into Bat-continuity in a way that makes sense, including Bat-Mite and Ace, the Bat-Hound.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(slams fist on the ground) DAAAMN YOU! DAAAAMN YOU ALL TO HELLLL!

I'm in favor of a swashbuckling, pulp Batman as much as anybody else, but BAT-MITE? There's such a thing as a pendulum swinging too far in the other direction. Batman's editorial vision has been off for the past few years, true, but let's not make the mistake of getting sentimental about utterly unworthy things.

Bat-Mite has nothing to do with what Batman's stories are supposed to be about, and is an unwelcome intrusion on the pulp feel of Batman's stories. He's an inferior version of, and derivative of, other, better characters (Qwisp the Sea Sprite, Mr. Mxyzptlk).

Ace the Bat-Hound, on the other hand, might be interesting. Hero dogs are a big part of adventure fiction, if they play him more like White Fang than Wonder Dog.

Other than that, Morrison's approach seems solid. I love the Neal Adams references, and it's very classy of him to give props to O'Neil (though none for Stainless Steve? Way to diss by omission, Granty). Batman's stories being described as "vaguely James Bond-ish" shows that Morrison has a real grip and feel for Batman's world. And it was very sharp of Grant to pick up on the Mike Barr thread, and I'm legitimately curious to see what develops.
Logged

"Wait, folks...in a startling new development, Black Goliath has ripped Stilt-Man's leg off, and appears to be beating him with it!"
       - Reporter, Champions #15 (1978)
Super Monkey
Super
League of Supermen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3435



WWW
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2006, 07:31:36 PM »

But, this will be his version of Bat-Mite so who knows what it will be like.
Logged

"I loved Super-Monkey; always wanted to do something with him but it never happened."
- Elliot S! Maggin
Uncle Mxy
Superman Squad
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 809



« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2006, 09:44:22 PM »

For the best Ace, watch the Krypto cartoon.  
Ace is awesome.
Logged
MatterEaterLad
Council of Wisdom
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1389


Silver Age Surfer


WWW
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2006, 09:58:29 PM »

There was a Silver Age comic where Bat Mite and Myx get into a war of magic that I always wanted to read, I'd give a new take on the Mite a chance, anyways... Cool
Logged
JulianPerez
Council of Wisdom
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1168



« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2006, 12:07:58 AM »

Quote from: "Super Monkey"
But, this will be his version of Bat-Mite so who knows what it will be like.


Hmmm, maybe that's true. If you asked me a few months ago about the Prankster, I would have written him off in the same vein as Bat-Mite: an unoriginal "Superman" version of the enemies of other characters; the only person that ever got interesting use out of the Prankster was Marty Pasko, and that was only because Pasko paired him up with other villains.

That was before Kurt Busiek and Geoff Johns did their recent JLA arc that featured the Prankster in such true to life and sharp form. My favorite part of the whole thing was how the Prankster defeated Hal Jordan: covered him in itching powder, so he couldn't concentrate to use his ring!
Logged

"Wait, folks...in a startling new development, Black Goliath has ripped Stilt-Man's leg off, and appears to be beating him with it!"
       - Reporter, Champions #15 (1978)
Michel Weisnor
Action Ace
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 426



« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2006, 10:01:01 PM »

Quote from: "Super Monkey"
But, this will be his version of Bat-Mite so who knows what it will be like.


Knowing Grant Morrison, Bat-Mite will be a chain smoking; hard loving ne'er-do-well, wearing hip huggers with an uncanny resemblance to Johnny Puleo.

I love the old Bat-Mite stories I've read so I'll leave it at that...

Go Bat-Mat!   :wink:
Logged

"Truth, Tolerance, and Justice"
nightwing
Defender of Kandor
Council of Wisdom
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1627


Semper Vigilans


WWW
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2006, 02:18:14 AM »

Don't forget "Ace" appeared on Batman Beyond as the elderly Bruce Wayne's rather cantankerous guard dog.  So there's always ways to make formerly goofy concepts work.

I'm extremely encouraged by everything Morrison's said about Batman and hope he can salvage what the disciples of Miller have made him into...which, as Morrison says, is less, not more than what he can be and has been.  I also liked his dig at Miller over the ridiculous "Batman vs Al Quaeda" comic in the works.  (Suggesting that a guy with the Miller Batman's psychological make-up would be a real-life candidate for the Taliban). Basically he told Miller to put on fatigues and join the Army if he wants to make a real difference.  Batman is a character in a comic book.

You go, Grant!
Logged

This looks like a job for...
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

CURRENT FORUM

Archives: OLD FORUM  -  DCMB  -  KAL-L
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Dilber MC Theme by HarzeM
Entrance ·  Origin ·  K-Metal ·  The Living Legend ·  About the Comics ·  Novels ·  Encyclopaedia ·  The Screen ·  Costumes ·  Read Comics Online ·  Trophy Room ·  Creators ·  ES!M ·  Fans ·  Multimedia ·  Community ·  Gift Shop ·  Guest Book ·  Contact & Credits ·  Links ·  Social Media ·  Forum

Superman created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster
The LIVING LEGENDS of SUPERMAN! Adventures of Superman Volume 1!
Return to SUPERMAN THROUGH THE AGES!
Buy Comics!