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« on: May 24, 2006, 05:25:00 PM »
Under what circumstances did this happen, if it actually happened at all? What was Bates's rationalization?

Jeez, as great as some of those seventies guys were, they sure were egotistical.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006, 10:49:30 PM »
I've never heard about this before. Any details?
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2006, 12:01:42 AM »
I never heard of such a thing.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 12:59:05 AM »
Maybe this is just a rumor? There are quite a lot of those in comicdom.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2006, 02:39:53 AM »
I never heard of this either.  Kirby lived on the West Coast at the time so did Bates and Kirby have any contact at all?
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 07:51:54 PM »
I never heard of this one, either.---Al
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2006, 02:55:41 AM »
Maybe Cary Bates just called Kirby "Jack."

Do you have a source?  :?
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2006, 03:16:16 AM »
Here is what I found from an interview from thsi site:

on doing comics the Marvel way...

MAGGIN: A story-telling artist can pull it off, though.  Jack Kirby was different.  He knew what to do with Stan Lee's story ideas.

BATES: Oh, yeah, it works if you have someone who knows what he's doing.

So I think this is nothing but a rumor, and I am about to close this thread and delete it unless someone can offer up some proof pretty fast. If no one can post any proof by Saturday, this thread is out of here.
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