IC #1 - At last they return

[forgottenhero]

Here's a thought:

If DC is returning the E-2 Superman to continuity, then arguably Superman could be once again the first super-hero, the legendary great grandaddy who started the whole shebang.

Surely, the different Supermen are just different incarnations of the same fundamental character.

In a way, since he and his companions helped 'create' the Post Crisis DCU, they might be considered predating the history of that entire universe.

I sincerely doubt that he's going to be around for very long. After the last issue of IC I'm sure that he, Lois, Alexander Luthor, and Superboy-Prime will return to their dimension (or whatever the proper term is in this case).

I am glad to see the old guy back, though, even if it's just for a short while.

[Just a fan]

Actually I think we'll see Superboy-prime remain behind and Kon-El go off to "that other place", this will happen because Kon-El still can't deal with the Luthor DNA and E-2 Superman, Luthor, and Lois promise to show him how to become the man he is meant to be. SB-Prime will move in with Clark and Lois for a while before showing up on the Kent farm, where he'll have a few adventures with as Superboy before going to the future and joining the LSH that was inspired by the legends of him and Supergirl, restoring the LSH orginal primise and keeping these folks around for when ever they need to be brough out of the closet for a good storry line.

[DakotaSmith]

Well, except that the current LSH doesn't appear to have been inspired by Superboy, but rather the 20th century heros in general.

There have now been two -- count 'em, two -- reboots of the LSH since the Crisis, both invalidating major parts of Post-Crisis continuity.  All that stuff with the "pocket universe" Superboy?  Never happened, neither in the first reboot, nor the second.  Which certainly makes one wonder about the status of Matrix/Supergirl/Linda Danvers, since she came from the same pocket universe.  And the current Superman's killing of Zod and his cronies, since they were also from that pocket universe.

And I continue to maintain that at the end of Infinite Crisis, Superman, Lois, Alexander Luthor, and Superboy won't simply return to their "prison dimension."  Rather, they'll be dead.

Dakota Smith

[Great Rao]

There have now been two -- count 'em, two -- reboots of the LSH since the Crisis, both invalidating major parts of Post-Crisis continuity.

You mean since Crisis on Infinite Earths?  I thought there have been at least 4 or 5, including a couple in the Bierbaum/Giffen run.

[DakotaSmith]

Well, by "reboot" I mean a complete re-start of the LSH from a blank slate, as opposed to the various retcons necessary to account for grafting a pre-Crisis LSH onto a post-Crisis universe.

And while LSH continuity is now so massively fracked-up with respect to the rest of the continuity in general as to be essentially incomprehensibe, we are now on our second complete-reboot of the LSH, as far as I know.  I.e. including the pre-Crisis LSH, there are three separate teams that have called themselves the LSH, lived in three separate 30th and 31st centuries, and which are each mutually exclusive to the others.

Dakota Smith

[Super Monkey]

urgh.. it is so confusing..

[Maximara]

Well, Jor-El, Lara, Barry Allen, Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, and Thunderbird seem to be amongst the truly dead at DC and Marvel.

Even the pre-Crisis stories goofed a little here, with that one story where Jor-El and Lara are alive in suspended animation in some kind of rocket.  A recording of Jor-El tells Superboy that they can't be resuscitated or else they die of Kryptonite poisoning, so he lets their still-alive bodies float off into space.  Brilliant...

The story became worse over time when the whole Anti-K regular K dynamic came up. No matter what K was invovled there was somewhere Superman could take (or have them taken) that would have saved them.

[Super Monkey]

Another Luthor has also returned.. and I am not talking about the kid from Earth-3!
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The Six proved to be such a thorn in the side of the Society that Luthor called for an all out assault on the Six’s headquarters (The House of Secrets), which went down in issue #6. Of course, there was a little more than a big fight happening in the issue, a Simone pulled back the curtain to reveal Mockingbird’s identity – Lex Luthor.

No, not that same one that was leading the Society – another Lex Luthor. The “mad scientist” Luthor compared to the Society’s suave businessman and politician Lex Luthor (who had, in the meantime, kidnapped Paraiah, who is drawn to catastrophic destruction, and was warning Luthor that another wave of massive destruction is coming).

Still scratching your head? Don’t worry – we sat down with Simone for a who’s who, what’s what, and more importantly, Luthor who? session.

read it here: http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=024419b7f152fbb1674d734718a9faba&threadid=46915