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Author Topic: Andy Warhol steals SUPERMAN!  (Read 17987 times)
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« on: January 26, 2005, 11:43:16 AM »

Hey can anybody out there ID the original panel, comic ish of Superman, page number etc of this obvious Andy Warhol swipe of a Curt Swan (possibly Swanderson)?




Warhol made millions with this and Swan....0.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2005, 01:50:07 PM »

Actually THIS IS THE ONE  we're looking for the origin of

Looks like a Schaffenberger to me - note the lines on the forearm in lieu of Cap Marvel's armbands?!



Possibly a Lois Lane or JO from the early 60s.  Outside just chance it's actually from the Sunday strip being done by Boring or Win Mortimer, at the time.  But possible a Schaffenberger fill in?

Anybody?Huh?Huh?Huh?  Eagle eyes wants you! :shock:
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2005, 06:05:06 PM »

Not sure of the comic, but it's definitely a swipe from Schaffenberger.

Here's a (poor) image showing more of the original page (though it seems to have been cut up).  Maybe it'll help you find the comic.  The dialog especially might be helpful, with it's references to Van-Zee, Sylvia and Lois' "double":




I found it here, in an academic treatise on the work:

http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/american_imago/v053/53.2collins_fig01.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2005, 07:10:23 PM »

Nightwing  the image you posted isn't showing and the link apears to be restricted.

But hmmm... definitely a vintage LL!
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2005, 08:10:52 PM »

Bah! Andy Warhol was a fraud. He took everybody for a ride with his work. That Superman image above is proof of it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2005, 08:36:44 PM »

Hmm...the image may be inaccessible for the same reason the article is.  It's at Johns-Hopkins, and since I'm logging on from another University, I seem to have access rights maybe everyone else does not.

Anyway, here's the image again, hosted this time at my site:



If anyone's interested in the text of the article, let me know.  But there's no reference to what the original comic was.  Suffice to say there is a lot of speculation about how the image (and the Superman legends in general) have homosexual overtones.

Bleh.  Personally I think, as Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2005, 08:53:54 PM »

Thanks, Nightwing.  

Think the title of that title was "The Girl Who Was Lois Lane's Double" altho exposure to Green K has weakened my powers of total recall. Uh...I mean sea water! :wink:

The cover had Van Zee as Superman & Sylvia (Lois) getting "married" and wasnt a hoax, dream or imaginary story-- well, I dunno about "hoax".

Warhol WAS a HOAX!
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2005, 09:04:57 PM »

This seems to be the issue where Van-Zee and Sylvia wed.  Also listed in some places as the first appearance of Sylvia.

http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=15513
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