Which origin do you prefer?

[Super Monkey]

nah, Doomday is still lamer.

[Daybreaker]

Worst-case scenario:  Doomsday puts on facepaint and tries to sell me phone service.

[NotSuper]

I think it says a lot about Doomsday when his animated counterpart is far more interesting than the comic version. The Cyborg Superman is even worse, though.

I always felt that the whole "Death of Superman" storyline could've been done much better. If they HAD to kill Superman, why didn't they just have Luthor or Brainiac do the deed? Or, if they wanted a big fight, Mongul would've been a good choice.

[Daybreaker]

And such a boring way to die in a comicbook, too.  I can just see how Jurgens must have plotted that part:

"They punch each other a lot and then they fall down.  And then they ... uh ... die.  Okay, I got nothin' here.  Better make it all splash-pages."

They should have used it as a way of outing Luthor, or something like that.

[TELLE]

I guess one of the reasons old-school fans disliked the new Lex was the way it reflectied on Superman --if he can't protect the world from a corrupt businessman how powerful/smart could he be?  And conversely, what kind of threat is a businessman for the greatest superhero?

[Beyonder]

Sorry. I like Weisingerman too, just like everyone else on this board-- but my all-time favorite of the Superman Avatars is "Longhair Superman", an evolved variant of byrne's Superman.

Besides, Byrne's Krypton is much more meaningful then a suposedly "benevolent" Krypton, whose society was a wet towel when it came to killing somebody, but would doom them insteadt to un-life in the Phantom Zone; some of them for eternity, like poor Jax-Ur.  :shock:

[GeorgeKirk]

. . . Besides, Byrne's Krypton is much more meaningful then a suposedly "benevolent" Krypton, whose society was a wet towel when it came to killing somebody, but would doom them insteadt to un-life in the Phantom Zone; some of them for eternity, like poor Jax-Ur.  :shock:

How is Byrne's Krypton more meaningful? Byrne made his Krypton sterile and emotionless for the sole purpose of killing the cool Kryptonian part of the Superman mythos, so he could say "Superman's home planet isn't worth revisiting, and it deserved to blow up anyway". Every time the Iron Age Superman came under some kind of Kryptonian influence, it always had a negative effect i.e. he became cold and unfeeling and tried to take over the world or something.

I'll agree that pre-Crisis Krypton's Phantom Zone punishment is ethically and morally questionable, but that alone doesn't make Byrne's Krypton better.

[Mizrael]

Ok, so who're the other 3 old farts who Voted Siegler & Shuster like me?  :roll: In my own personal reality, Doomsday and the death of Superman don't exist!  :shock: Not to mention the many deaths of Supergirl!  :?