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Author | Topic: Superman in the 70s |
India
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![]() ![]() 14) # 400 (May '71) "My Son...is he Man or Beast?" story: ???, 14 pages. --Along with "Enemy of Earth," this is the other Superman comic that got me back to reading Superman (I picked up both comics on the ferry as our class went on a field-trip across the strait to Victoria to see the sites). For the life of me I can't find the credits anywhere in the story, but if I had to guess I'd say it was authored by Leo Dorfman. There's a certain melodrama here that is just a bit more extreme than what Bates would have done. It is, of course, the story of Superman's son, Gregor, his strange transformations and his tragic death. Actually Gregor was Gregor Nagy, son of scientist Jan Nagy, but upon Jan's death Superman becomes the teen's new guardian. Gregor is none to happy with this arrangement, and then begins to display unusual powers of transformation, earning him the name "Changeling!" 15) # 408 (Jan. '72) "The Secret of Super-X!" story: Bates, 7
pages. In this tale Clark assumes a new mysterman identity wearing a sleek outfit that entirely covers his whole body and his whole face. I like the look of the young Clark as done by Swa IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() ...as done by Swan and Anderson, and their Lana Lang is adorable. This tale sort of predicts the Superboy TV series. 16) # 414 (July '72) "Superman vs. Superstar!" Bates, 15
pages. The actor in this case is Gregory Reed and the accident is a fire on the set not a fall from a horse. Reed manages to fake being Superman's double, but in the end Kal-El discovers the tragic truth. A few years later, Reed would recover his amazing good looks and resemblance to the Man of Steel. Of course, Bates didn't know there would ever be a Christopher Reeve--Gregory Reed is intended as a tragic echo of George Reeves, the TV Superman. <it's all kind of touchingly sad but profound> IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() 17 & 18) #417 (Oct. '72) "The Conspiracy of the Crime-Lords!" story: David George (aka Leo Dorfman), 15 pages. #418 (Nov. '72) "The Attack of the Phantom Super-Foes!" story: Leo Dorfman, 15 pages. --I love Leo Dorfman and his crazy name games. Dorfman was a true master of the classic Super-hero/Super-villain story. He's old school damn the plot so long as it's a good story. This tale makes me smile. The dialogue crackles with brilliant and funny exchanges such as the
greetings between Brainiac and Grax on the first page... This two-parter brought together Luthor, Brainiac, Grax (last seen in Action 342) and the Maurauder (last seen in Action 378) in an uneasy alliance, presumably to make peace with Superman. Luthor, by the way, has given up his prison greys at this time--he's wearing a space-age green, black, and white number--it would be a few more years before he started wearing that purple and green super-suit. This would be Dorfman's last Superman tale (although I believe he worked on Jimmy Olsen for a bit longer) and Murray Boltinoff's last Action as he and Schwartz traded assignments (Julie left World's Finest which Boltinoff took over). IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() 19) # 420 (Jan. '73) "The Made-to-Order Menace!" story: Elliot S! Maggin, 15 pages. --A few more bricks in Superman's Fortress of Continuity here...Danny Victor wants to break into television production, and with the help of Jimmy Olsen manages to book big TV anchor Clark Kent for the Johnny Nevada Show (Johnny Nevada--as in Carson City, Nevada, get it?-- would reappear in other stories through the seventies). If Mr. & Mrs. Lewis at 344 Clinton were the comicbook doubles of Len & Glynis Wein, then methinks young Danny with his boyish good looks is Elliot S! or at least his four color equivalent. And then there's Towbee, the Minstrel of Space (a little funny man who looks half Danny Devito half Braveheart)--Superman's personal troubador, Towbee would sing his praises again in Maggin's novel Superman, Last Son of Krypton: Miracle Monday (Maggin is unashamedly derivative of his hero, Kurt Vonnegut, jr.)! IP: Logged |
Jetfire Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() WOW India Ink thanks for all the info (Looking forward for the rest ![]() ------------------ IP: Logged |
Pilgrim Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: So is the Polyester Age the same as the Bronze Age then? IP: Logged |
twb Member |
![]() ![]() I started at Action #434 {cover date April 1973] Swan & Colletta. Oksner was my alltime favorite inker for Swan. I think he is underrated, 'cause on a good day they were quite the art team. Of course Swanderson had their great moments, without a doubt. There was one Action Comics story involving a time-travelling green lizard and a chase to a Mars volcano. I don't remember if the writing was very sophisticated in hindsight, but the art was fantastic that issue. IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() ...ah! After many days of grey screens, I'm finally back in the MBs. To be honest, I feel like the Swan and Oksner (Swoksner) Superman is MY Superman. Because...I came in on the Swan and Anderson work after it was well under way, and Colletta's inks after that were so disappointing that Oksner's inks looked all the better by comparison. And I just like Bob Oksner's art--as an inker but also as a penciller. He drew Mary Marvel the way I would always like to see her and before being a Superman inker he worked on many many DC humour comics. Perhaps one day I'll tackle the Swoksner Superman, but right now let's continue with... twenty-five SWANDERSONs twenty-five in Action 20) # 421 (Feb. '73) "The Fantastic Feats of Captain Strong!" story: Bates, 16 pages. --Captain Strong is essentially an homage to Popeye (as Bill Blackbeard said, "the first >arf, arf< Super-hero"), and after making his debut here he became part of the ever-expanding cast of supporting characters. He's also essentially the pre-Crisis version of Bibbo. Billy Anders appears in this story, too. I neglected to mention him before, mainly because I never cared for the character. A little kid who was part Billy Batson and part Freddy Freeman, there was a story arc going on in the Superman title which had this blonde boy gaining the Man of Steel's powers and Superman having to imagine a lynx in order to become super. I didn't like it--yes, there were stories back then that I didn't like--I also didn't like the storyline that had Perry meeting some young mutants (who in a subsequent story would give him cigars that made him super). As for Strong, he got his powers from seaweed ("sauncha" laced with an alien element) not spinach. 21) # 428 (Oct. '73) "Whatever Happened to Superman?" story: Bates, 13 pages. --not "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" (the final pre-Crisis Superman story by Alan Moore, Curt Swan, George Perez, and Kurt Schaffenberger) but probably part of the inspiration for that story. In this one, while still in prison Luthor has had a confederate on the outside launch a satellite which emits a powerful hypnotic beam--making everyone believe that Superman has not been active for the past ten years. Despite his powerful feats, no one sees Superman in action (their minds convince them that they're seeing something else like a mounted policeman's horse suddenly springing wings and taking flight). The cover was another one of those beautiful Nick Cardy pieces. I didn't think Cardy drew a great Superman, but his covers were often great for being so evocative. My favourite was probably 425's which has a bunch of kids sitting on the front stoop reading comics and the littlest of the bunch (wearing a red 'S' on his shirt) pointing to the sky at Superman in the distance, but no one else notices (too caught up in the comic). This issue has two confused kids looking at a poster of Superman on a wall and one of them saying aloud, "Gee, I wonder whatever happened to him?" IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() 22 & 23) # 430 (Dec. '73) "Bus-Ride to Nowhere!" story: Bates, 13 pages. #431 (Jan. '74) "The Monster Who Unmasked Superman!" story: Bates, 13 pages. --No it's not Speed, not the "Magical Mystery Tour," not a Seinfeld episode, but a two-parter that has elements of all of those and your conventional voyage to an alternate dimension story. It begins modestly with certain residents of 344 Clinton Street catching their bus at the usual stop--Clark Kent, May Marigold (the twin sister who doesn't have a crush on CK), Martin Thorpe, Nathan Warbow, and Jonathan Slaughter--but they never reach their destination! 24) #432 (Feb. '74) "Target of the Toy-Men!" story: Bates, 13
pages. In Action 432, the original Toy-Man is in retirement, but returns when a new upstart Toy-Man tries to steal his thunder--and our original has the smock and the long hair (although his locks have turned white by now). This trend of bringing villains back to their raw roots would continue through the seventies, with the Toy-Man being one of the best examples. Unfortunately this issue also marks the end of the Swanderson run. IP: Logged |
Pksoze Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() India your eventually going to do the Galactic Golem right. ![]() ------------------ IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() Sorry Pksoze. I have to limit myself to some reasonable number and the "Galactic Golem" was reprinted in Superman in the 70s--and with only one exception I've tried to concentrate on those stories that haven't been recently reprinted. If anyone wants to read that fine story in the tradepaperback (or in the original, if you have it), they can report back to us with their thoughts. Which leaves only the last of the twenty-five twenty-five SWANDERSONs twenty-five which was printed in the tabloid-size Amazing World of Superman--Metropolis Edition (1973)--which I mentioned earlier--in black and white with grey shading; and then in the tabloid-size Limited Collector's Edition C-31 (Oct-Nov. '74) in colour; and then in the Warner Books softcover, at closer to regular comic-book page size, Secret Origins of DC Super-Heroes (1976), also in colour... 25) "The Origin of Superman," layout: Carmine Infantino,
pencils: Curt Swan, inks: Murphy Anderson, dialogue: E. Nelson Bridwell,
15 pages. There are some elements in this story that have some meaning for me, although I don't know that they would matter that much to anyone else. Like the use of the Infantino hand, on page two, to direct us to the next page. The fact that Ma and Pa are already old when they discover the rocket (when in some Superboy stories they were shown as rather younger when Clark was a Superbaby), or that the rocket doesn't crash and crumple (which it shouldn't, being from Krypton and thus invulnerable to impact, although in some previous origins it was shown to crumple--but this begs the question how did they use the glass to make Clark's glasses), or that Kal-El is shown to be a bit younger than in previous Weisinger stories which made it seem that he was already four or even five when rocketed from Krypton--but not a new-born (I would guess Kal-El is about one year old when he arrives on Earth, amazing that super-memory he had). IP: Logged |
Pksoze Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Actually India I was thinking about the Golem's second appearance (Superman#258 "Fury of the Energy-Eater"). It was writen by Len Wein. I also thought the way the Silver Age Superman acted and dealt with that meanace was interesting. ------------------ IP: Logged |
The Time
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![]() ![]() India, first, thanks for the link on the Legion board and reminding about my post here. I hadn't checked on this for a while Quite a marvelous response by you to my inquiries about the Swanderson period. Your details and descriptiopns are very helpful in sparking my memories of not only the stories but also of my own favorites among your top 25 issues. I have copied your list and checkmarked my faves. I happened to grab Action 400 almost by accident at a recent con, and I'll probably get to it this week. If you're interested, I'll provide my Top Ten of Supes during the 60s, but off the top of my head so I'll probably forget some contenders. In no order... SM 141 - Return to Krypton - probably my fave, truly ahead of it's time
(FYI for collectors, I believe it was reprinted in Superman
#232.) 156 - Virus X - Swan/Klein at their best, don't know why (maybe the superior coloring?) but the art just stands out more so in this issue 158 - The Kandor story - great intrigue, Swan Kryptonscapes at their best (I just coined that term right here! Everybody use it twice a week!) 162 - Superman Red & Blue - just a fun wish fullfillment (Ever wonder what happened to Superman Yellow? Daredevil probably knows. But the Marvel bastard ain't talkin'!) 164 - Superman Vs. Luthor - mano y mano, the best "personal" battle between them, really felt the long time rivalry come to loggerheads. 167 - Luthor & Brainiac - their first team-up, great characterization and origin story, DC silver age at it's best Action 300 - Superman Under A Red Sun - almost a wistful sci-fi tale (I recall there was a big goof at the ending; switched in midstream deus ex machinas.) 292 & 294 - Luthor kills a robot - an interesting morality tale, loved the covers Superman Ann 4 - Villains of Space & Time - Okay, not original material, but the best 60s DC Annual by far for my money, and it also has the great eyecatching Legion feature (which I feel was decisive in establishing the Legion as a "real" group in the DC universe.) Most of these stories involved Lex Luthor, truly the #2 character in Superman comics during the 60s. Once again, thanks for you comprehensive top 25 list. I'll probably check it a couple times after I get some more of the issues. TTT IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() Trapper--although I haven't read all of those, a few do spark memories. The Super-Duel (between Luthor and Superman) is probably my favourite single issue Superman story of all time. In my own list of sixties stories would most definitely appear the three-part Action story of Superman flying to the end of time--stopped by the Time Trapper from returning to the present. As this is off the top of MY head I can't give issue numbers, but it was around 1968 I think... I remember going to Keller's Drugs with my Dad and picking up this Action and groaning when I realized it was continued--I hated continued comics, hated hated them. I then got the conclusion--BUT, because drugstores were so unreliable for having every issue (which is why I so hated continued comics, because I rarely got to read the end of the story or sometimes the beginning!), I never got the middle part--because of all things this was a THREE parter and THEN I pretty much gave up on comics all together for a couple of years. It was only years later that I actually did get that second part of the story. I know that Cary Bates wrote it and Curt Swan drew it, but I'm not sure who inked it (Jack Abel???). IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() For the benefit of Mr. P... The Galactic Golem Superman # 248 (Feb. '72) "The Man Who Murdered the Earth!" 18 pages. Superman # 258 (Nov. '72) "Fury of the Energy-Eater!" 16 pages. story for both: Len Wein; art for both: Curt Swan & Murphy Anderson. --I remember in the seventies reading a comment by Len Wein about how he doesn't write villains as totally evil. All his characters are characters and therefore full of the same emotions that you and I share. They do bad things, just as sometimes we do bad things, but not really for bad reasons--in their own moral universe they are true to their nature. This reminds me somewhat of the movie "Red," where the judge realizes that he cannot judge, because if he puts himself in the shoes of the accused then he does indeed put himself in those shoes and therefore can see no other choice being possible while being in those shoes. Without too much elaboration, we understand this about Lex Luthor in the first story. Narrated from his point of view, his motivations seem reasonable. Luthor is indeed the greatest genius that the Earth might ever know. Superman and his power present problems for Luthor to solve. In attempting to solve these problems he creates his own monster (as with Frankenstein--a point he openly admits) and inadvertently destroys the world. Luthor is chastened by this catastrophic result--he is a moral man and never intended the Earth's doom. I like that Luthor's narrative is grounded in reason. What bugs me about the overused first person in today's narratives is that it's rarely ever explained--and if you think about it too hard it doesn't seem at all plausible. Luthor in this story provides a record because he wishes that any alien lifeforms should understand how the catastrophe arrived so as they might solve it--and also by thinking it through, Lex hopes to possibly come up with his own solution. I like this Lex. He is heroic in his own way. Moreover, we see him here in the lab-coat that he wore back in the early fifties. Len Wein seems to have given the character of Lex Luthor a lot of thought. But I don't like the cheat of the story. The convenient fact that everyone in the world, but Lex (it would seem) was shunted off to another dimension, and then back again without any other after effects of such a shift. We should remember that Len Wein was writing the first run of Swamp Thing tales around the time of these two Golem stories. Of course, ST is a golem, as is the Frankenstein monster (or "Spawn of Frankenstein" which was a back-up feature by Bernard Bailey over in the Phantom Stranger comic). The whole Jewish legend of the Golem may inform all of these stories. And then there also seems to be the influence of EC--Tales from the Crypt as well as Wierd Science. Wein loves to set a mood and the first two pages of the second story do that with some poor nameless wanderer being pulled underground by the Golem, who takes his hat and coat, and pets his dog--but does the dog no harm. Throughout this story we are treated to loopy turns of dialogue, sometimes outright funny or merely sardonic. Josh Coyle, floor director of the WGBS news, does not suffer fools gladly and probably thinks this Clark Kent is quite the fool. Even Superman has quite the smart mouth when bantering with the deadpan Golem. The blokes at STAR don't come off as too intelligent--Professor Harry Potter??? Potter probably isn't Lana's uncle, the crackpot scientist from the Weisinger days, but he's still a bit goofy. The whole story comes to its action-packed conclusion at the Fortress of Solitude--punctuated by choice ad-libs from the Man of Steel ("in the future, please open the door...those things are expensive to replace," "your breath is making me sick...," "want to bet, bright eyes--?" "it would probably be a lot cheaper to install a revolving door," "you could use a hot bath..."). And since the Fortress is at the North Pole this offers another refrain from the Frankenstein story, as the creature in that story was also stranded in the high arctic. Like Mary Shelley's creature, this Golem doesn't seem to intend evil. Both creatures destroy because it is in their nature to do so. The Galactic Golem is driven simply by his hunger for energy and all his actions are motivated by that one need. I had forgotten about Len Wein's contribution to Superman until I set down to review those stories from the early seventies. He contributed greatly to the supporting cast of characters and gave a lot of texture to Superman's world. IP: Logged |
Pksoze Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() India your one cool cat! ![]() ------------------ IP: Logged |
Jon-El Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Anybody remember Garcia-Lopez's run in the mid 70's. I believe Gerry Conway was the writer. Those are among my favorites. Also there was a story "arc" featuring Solomon Grundy & the Parasite that was very good! IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() As I recall, without checking my comics, the first JLGL Superman was # 301, and had Superman confronting an Earth 1 Solomon Grundy who ended up trapped on the moon, written by Conway. IP: Logged |
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![]() ![]() ![]() This just hit me! My favorite all-time Superman cover is an issue drawn by Neal Adams. Superman is green from Kryptonite poisoning and looks out at the reader and says something like: "The kryptonite in my body is going to kill me but before I go I'm taking you with me!" I LOVE THAT COVER!! Just wondered if anyone remembered that! It was part of a long Metallo story. IP: Logged |
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![]() ![]() quote: The "Polyester Age" is the post-Crisis term for the Bronze Age. IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() Yes, I remember that cover well--and other covers Adams did around that time, I think it was around 1980, or maybe 81, after Pasko, when Conway had come back as writer and was doing most of the stories in Superman. IP: Logged |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Jon-El, I know the cover of which you speak! It was Superman #317, and I think it was the last Superman cover that Adams did. That comic was one of the first comics I ever read. It had every thing! Great interior Swan artwork, an exciting story, and a Metallo that is far superior to the current version! I love how Superman actually used his intelligence to figure out Metallo's secret, and set up an elaborate trap to stop him. Man, that was a great issue! IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() Oh yes, of course. I was mixed up there. Conway did some issues, then Pasko, then Conway, then Pasko again. So it was earlier, around 1978 I think. I have to do more research! IP: Logged |
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![]() ![]() ![]() That entire Metallo storyline is one of my favorites. Actually, the Pasko-Swan, Conway-Lopez era is probably my favorite era! Great blend of realism and fantasy! Oh and I love Oksner's inks too. IP: Logged |
India
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![]() ![]() Getting only grey screens for a couple of days this weeks, I checked out some of the features on the Fortress-- https://www.supermanthroughtheages.com/theages/ referenced on page one of this thread. There's some great stuff on there. Entire stories available for reading (including the "Origin of Superman" that I mentioned a little earlier). And I'd forgotten that "Mr. Xavier" was the linch-pin that held together the Bates and Maggin four-part story in Superman # 296-299 (the first part, from 296, being available for reading at the Fortress) and illoed by Swan & Oksner (with Terry Austin serving as Bob's assistant at this time, if I don't miss my guess). Anyone--ANYONE--with an interest in Superman (of any Age) should definitely check out this site if they haven't already! ------------------ for Book of Oa-- for DC golden age sites-- fave photo-- for Diana Prince: for Superman: The Sandman Saga: IP: Logged |
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